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Dissecting Awful MMO Mechanics – Part 1

Keen over at Keen & Graev recently wrote a series of posts called “Old MMO Mechanics I Love and You Probably Hate” in which he is right about pretty much one thing – that I find those mechanics to be terrible game design. Spawn camping, trains to zone, and being lost at sea for hours do not make for a fun gaming experience. This whole series of posts has rose tinted glasses written all over it, but let’s give it the benefit of the doubt and see if we can salvage anything actually good from all those terrible mechanics Keen describes. Due to the length of the whole thing it will be broken down into three parts, mirroring the posts of Keen.

For the purpose of this post I propose two factors that indicate a potentially good mechanic. The mechanic needs to either provide interesting gameplay choices or increase immersion in order to be any good. There are various minor factors that almost but not quite fit into the above categories (like a mechanic with the sole purpose of being humorous) but I will ignore those here for the sake of simplicity. Let’s have a look at Keens oh-so-great mechanics and see if there is anything to them that can improve gameplay in either of these regards.

Item Weight

Item weight can easily be seen as an immersion mechanic due to being a more realistic limitation of a player’s inventory than assigning items to slots. I have yet to see a game, however, in which item weight actually is realistic. That wouldn’t be much fun anyway, would it? The weight of full plate armour and a sword already is enough to tire a man within minutes so if you wanted the mechanic to be realistic, knight type characters could never pick up any loot at all. And if you are out collecting resources for crafting, you’d better carry every single load of ore or wood you find home. And beware that you are not attacked on the way or you will have to drop whatever you are carrying. And it goes without saying that you won’t be able to carry both a pickaxe and a 2-handed sword.

As you can see, item weight can never be realistic if you want to keep gameplay fun at all. Any non-realistic implementation of item weight on the other hand actually lowers immersion instead of increasing it. But Keen claims that item weight added to gameplay as well by making you plan your travels better and forcing you to go home to unload when you picked up too much. This is no different whatsoever from more modern slot-based inventories, except that those are much more convenient to use. Slots are a much simpler metric to work with than individual item weights and require less boring math to be performed when making decisions on which items to keep. Division (to figure out the per-gram value of items you find) is not an interesting game mechanic.

Verdict: Item weight is a relic of the past and no part of it should be salvaged for modern games.


Darkness is absolutely a tool that can be used to increase immersion in games. The whole genre of horror games relies on impaired visibility to be more scary and many other games use it quite well too. RPGs, however, have usually been terrible at using darkness. Darkness in an RPG means that you have to light a torch and be done with it. Lighting a torch brings you such interesting gameplay elements as being unable to wear a shield/second weapon in your off-hand or even having a dedicated torch wielder in your group that did nothing else but make sure that the other players have light. Doesn’t that sound like a lot of fun?

Darkness in other games works for two reasons: For one they usually have hand-crafted experiences with enemies hidden in the shadows at exactly the right places. MMOs can’t have that. The other reason is that they sometimes manage to make the torch-or-not decision interesting. You can navigate a dark corridor in an FPS either by hearing and muzzle flashes or by turning on the light. If you do the latter though you will have to put away your gun which might be a bad idea if you actually see enemies in the light. Even games that use real darkness correctly usually make sure not to use too much of  it because it simply gets annoying after a while. Having to deal with it in every single day/night cycle gets awful real quick.

Speaking of day/night cycles: Making the time of day actually matter while playing is awful game design as well. At least in games like Oblivion you can speed up time until a certain time of day is reached, but MMOs don’t give you that luxury. Both Aion and Lord of the Rings Online have quests that can only be completed by night, forcing you to either wait for nightfall or come back later to a region that you have already cleared otherwise. I want a fluent gaming experience when playing and not to hang around waiting for some arbitrary amount of time to pass.

Verdict: Darkness can be used to further immersion if used sparingly, but should not be a major recurring element of the MMOs and should not be combated by wearing a torch or similar device.

Falling Off the Boat

Waiting 15 minutes for a boat to arrive already isn’t any fun at all. As a gameplay mechanic it’s simply awful and in order to increase immersion it would actually have to be somewhat realistic. 15 minutes isn’t more realistic a timing for a boat schedule in a medieval world than 2 minutes but it’s infinitely more annoying. Making the boat take the scenic route on the other hand does increase immersion a bit, but I have to ask myself whether showing a bit of the journey at the start at the end like World of Warcraft does isn’t interesting enough. Do I really need to see a whole lot of deep blue see and maybe an island on the way?

But on to falling off the boat. there’s absolutely no challenge in not falling of the boat, all you have to do is to sit still in one place. The people who fall off are those who are too bored by the long journey to sit still and want to do at least something while on there. These people –  who already have a lower tolerance for boredom – are then forced to swim back for hours to get back to actually playing the game? This is wrong on so many levels. If you design something to be dangerous then you want it to be a challenge. Punishing players for not being able to sit still for various minutes isn’t good game design. Even assuming though that the punishment was for failing an actual challenge, making somebody be bored for hours is just terrible – and it isn’t even realistic. People who fall off a boat at high sea either get picked up by the boat again or they die. They don’t just go on swimming in a straight line for hours until they reach the shore.

Keen even acknowledges that this “sucked so much” in Everquest but then goes on to say that “Knowing that the distance I traveled was actually vast and dangerous gave meaning to the trip.” Chances are if it sucks, it sucks. Especially if the way to avoid the sucking is to play the game less.

Verdict: Awful. If you want to make travel meaningful, I’m all for it. But this is not the way.

  • Time of day doesn’t bother me… unless it’s important for progress. Interesting events and quests that can only happen at certain times make a world more interesting, but they need to be tangential and optional, methinketh.

    Oh, and on travel… if something is given meaning by how much it sucks, well, that’s meaning I’d rather live without.
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  • I think the item weight problem goes very well along with what you wrote about all the trash dropping. sure its annoying if you have to pick up 5 swords per enemy. If drops where rare but more meaningfull itemweight might be a good concept. Maybe one can build around it? its not ver immersing if you go gathering herb in westfall in full platemail 😉
    darkness usually annoys me. on my screen it usually fails since its set bright enough so that i can still see.
    Falling of the boat… thats plain stupid and should be punished accordingly. as far as travel in general goes it would be nice if the way to the dungeon would be part of the adventure. The boats in world of warcraft wold also be ok if the travel itself meant something. if places would matter i mean but i think you wrote something about that as well.

  • Totally agree with your take on Darkness. For me, it’s not even about the day/night cycle but rather those areas that are so dark you can’t see 3 feet in front of you. It was incredibly annoying in the original EQ and had to be overcome by equipping items of getting Infra/Ultravision. Unfortunately it only really affected newbies too because most veterans had found ways to permanently negate it and thus make the whole mechanic pointless.

    I’d be happy to see Darkness (pardon the pun) return as a device in high level dungeons to help increase immersion or make encounters more challenging and scary. It shouldn’t be used in the open world though.
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  • I will read your two other postings about old mechanics that were supposedly great (at least according to Keen) later.

    So far I could only break it down to two aspects:

    1. Bad things could happen to players in early MMOs. Nowadays if you fall from a cliff and die, it might be an achievement! Besides a very low repair bill it won’t hurt you.

    2. There was danger and excitement. True, this is the same as point 1…. 🙂

    MMOs were new and exciting – but I doubt it was due to the mechanics. MMO mechanics were always crude and primitive, and nowadays I still wonder that 99% of all MMOs have not found any alternative to the flawed trinity concept of combat. As if it would be the only possible solution.

    Regarding Item Weight vs Inventory Slots: the true issue is that MMOs reward you to loot and bring to the merchant as much as possible. To the very last stone of weight or the very last item slot.

    We pick up everything to collect or sell it. We carry around a huge assortment of weapons and armors. Our resist X/Y/Z armors, our general armor, etc.

    There are also hybrids. Diablo for instance has items that take up 2×3 fields of the grid instead of only one.

    There is a fight between convenience, reducing player income and the almost mandatory need to pick up as much as possible to turn it into coin. It is also connected to mob drops: Should every mob have as loot what he visibly carries? Sword, armor, helmet, some coin?

    Super large grid inventories turn us into loot sucking vacuum cleaners. Small inventories can be annoying, as they will be always filled.

    It is hard to find the right, sweet spot here. Opinions can very greatly what a “meaningful travel time” is. Some say the instant travel in Guild Wars totally breaks their illusion. At the same time, they have no problem with the hearthstone and Mages being the kings of instant travel to many locations.

    Seems Keen really stirred up a good discussion there. If he would only not always go for the extremes, his extreme hyping of games followed by instant damnation to hell a few weeks later is legendary by now.

  • Indeed, I’m actually quite grateful that Keen posted his series – even if I hardly agree with any of his points. He’s given me a lot to respond to, and even created a bit of doubt in my mind concerning game mechanics. Maybe mechanics can have a good effect even if they are awful. Punishing people who fall off the boat is a terrible way of making travel meaningful but maybe this shows us that we definitely should have a mechanic in place that does just that. One should make it more interesting though 😉
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